{"id":77257,"date":"2023-08-24T08:00:53","date_gmt":"2023-08-24T12:00:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cablemanpro.com\/wallstreetpr\/biggest-winners-and-losers-of-aggressive-messy-first-republican-debate-according-to-top-gop-strategists-77257"},"modified":"2023-08-24T08:00:53","modified_gmt":"2023-08-24T12:00:53","slug":"biggest-winners-and-losers-of-aggressive-messy-first-republican-debate-according-to-top-gop-strategists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cablemanpro.com\/wallstreetpr\/biggest-winners-and-losers-of-aggressive-messy-first-republican-debate-according-to-top-gop-strategists-77257","title":{"rendered":"Biggest winners and losers of &#8216;aggressive,&#8217; &#8216;messy&#8217; first Republican debate, according to top GOP strategists"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>From first-time candidate Vivek Ramaswamy grabbing the most attention to a usually mild-mannered former Vice President Mike Pence repeatedly on the attack, the first <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/live-news\/republican-presidential-debate\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Republican presidential nomination debate<\/a> of the 2024 election cycle tossed out the expected script and offered up plenty of fireworks and surprises.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It was a little messy at times because I think there\u2019s been so much pent-up angst for this debate,&#8221; longtime Republican strategist David Kochel, a veteran of numerous <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/politics\/elections\/republicans\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">GOP presidential campaigns<\/a>, told Fox News minutes after the conclusion of the Fox News-hosted debate in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.<\/p>\n<p>Kochel, who sat in the debate hall audience, highlighted that the showdown &#8220;comes a little bit late in the cycle. You could tell that everybody was just rearing to get out and go. It was a pretty aggressive debate.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/vivek-ramaswamy-attacked-from-all-sides-first-gop-debate-amateur\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>RAMASWAMY ATTACKED FROM ALL SIDES IN FIRST GOP 2024 DEBATE<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>With <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/person\/donald-trump\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">former President Donald Trump<\/a> \u2014 the commanding front-runner in the GOP nomination race as he makes his third straight White House run \u2014 skipping out on the debate, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was expected to bear the brunt of the attacks. DeSantis sits at a distant second to Trump in most polls, but is ahead of the rest of the large field of contenders.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/live-news\/republican-presidential-debate\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>CHINA, UKRAINE, TRUMP, FENTANYL AND MORE ON THE DEBATE STAGE AGENDA<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But during the two-hour debate, Ramawamy \u2014 a multi-millionaire biotech entrepreneur, best-selling author and culture wars crusader \u2014 ended up being the candidate taking the most incoming fire from his seven rivals on the stage.<\/p>\n<p>Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who&#8217;s making his second White House run, and former ambassador and former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley took shots at Ramaswamy. But it was Pence who landed the most blows.<\/p>\n<p>In one viral moment, Pence blasted Ramaswamy, saying &#8220;now is not the time for on-the-job training. We don&#8217;t need to bring in a rookie. We don&#8217;t need to bring in people without experience.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Kochel argued that &#8220;Ramaswamy was just an absolute punching bag and probably deserved it because he comes across as so slick and packaged and everybody just wanted to take swings at him. You could sort of feel all the animosity towards him on the stage.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/video\/6335466096112\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>WATCH: HALEY CLASHES WITH RAMASWAMY OVER U.S. AID TO UKRAINE<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Ramaswmay grabbed plenty of applause for repeatedly defending Trump.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Longtime Republican consultant Dave Carney told Fox News that &#8220;Ramaswamy started out very strong \u2014 he\u2019s the best performer.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But Carney, a veteran of plenty of GOP presidential campaigns over the past four decades, argued that Ramaswamy&#8217;s &#8220;shtick didn\u2019t last all two hours. I think he hurt himself a lot. Nikki Haley really took the wood to him\u2026They showed he can\u2019t take a punch.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Ramaswamy also grabbed plenty of headlines for claiming that &#8220;climate change is a hoax.&#8221;\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The reality is more people are dying of bad climate change policies than they are of actual climate change,&#8221; he added.<\/p>\n<p>Ramaswamy&#8217;s comments were booed by some in the crowd \u2014 and they were slammed by Christie, who jabbed, &#8220;I\u2019ve had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like ChatGPT standing up here.&#8221;\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/conservatives-praise-ramaswamys-mention-fatherless-epidemic-in-us-best-answer-by-anyone\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>RAMASWAMY WINS CONSERVATIVE PRAISE ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THIS COMMENT<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>While he received the most incoming fire, Ramaswamy was far from a human punching bag. He repeatedly counter-attacked and served up plenty of populist one-liners as he stood out as Trump\u2019s chief defender on the stage. And he made himself the center of conversation.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking with Fox News&#8217; Sean Hannity immediately following the debate, an upbeat Ramaswamy spotlighted that &#8220;this is my first time in a political debate and I am thrilled with how it came out. We over exceeded my expectation.&#8221;\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Haley, the only female among the major candidates running for the Republican nomination, was the first contender on the stage to come out swinging, targeting DeSantis, Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina, and Pence early in the debate for supporting legislation that raised the national debt.<\/p>\n<p>And she was the first to target Trump over his perceived electability liability, arguing the former president was the &#8220;most disliked&#8221; politician in the country.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I thought Nikki was very strong,&#8221; Kochel said. &#8220;She showed a lot of strength.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Carney added that &#8220;Nikki Haley punched above her weight more than anybody else and did herself a lot of good.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Pence was also repeatedly in the spotlight, with over 12 minutes of speaking time, which was more than any other candidate. That was due in part to his numerous interruptions.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/republican-candidates-agree-pence-did-right-thing-jan-6\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>DESANTIS ON PENCE JAN. 6, 2021 ACTIONS: \u2018I HAVE NO BEEF WITH HIM\u2019<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Pence was larger figure on stage,&#8221; Kochel noted.<\/p>\n<p>And Carney said that &#8220;Pence came up a little bit&#8221; during the debate. &#8220;They had a strategy to be relevant and I think he did a good job.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Most of the candidates also came to Pence&#8217;s defense for the then-vice president&#8217;s actions in upholding his constitutional duties by certifying the 2020 election results amid the attack on the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/elections\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>HEAD HERE FOR THE LATEST FOX NEWS REPORTING FROM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>DeSantis, who&#8217;s ten minutes of speaking time was fourth behind Pence, Ramaswamy and Christie, grabbed mixed reviews.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I thought DeSantis was very strong. He was able to work lots of his stump speech into moments of the debate, which is what he wants because he\u2019s got one of the better stumps in the field, Kochel said.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He didn\u2019t have to get into any bickering. He just came in and delivered the message that he had. I think that\u2019s to his benefit,&#8221; Kochel added. &#8220;DeSantis did everything he needed to do.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But Carney disagreed, saying &#8220;I think Ron DeSantis sort of disappeared.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think many people think DeSantis is falling and finished, and he didn\u2019t do anything to change the trajectory,&#8221; Carney argued. &#8220;He was OK, but he didn\u2019t score any points.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Scott grabbed roughly eight minutes of speaking time, barely more than former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson and North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, the lowest polling of the conteders who stood on the wings of the stage.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Scott is good. He\u2019s just very quiet and is just not a fighter,&#8221; Carney said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Carney added that Scott, the only Black Republican in the Senate and a rising star in the GOP, &#8220;made some impassioned pleas on education and abortion. But he missed an opportunity to really break through.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Kochel added that &#8220;Tim Scott disappeared. I don\u2019t know where he was the entire debate. We\u2019ll see if he has a better debate next time.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Kochel said that &#8220;Christie did the Christie act the way you sort of expected. He\u2019s real. He\u2019s authentic. He\u2019s got a lot of communications ability. But clearly the way he\u2019s approaching Trump, Republicans just aren\u2019t comfortable with it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Pointing to Christie\u2019s high unfavorable ratings with Republicans, Kochel added that &#8220;you could tell. He\u2019s kind of getting booed down when he was talking about Trump&#8217;s indictments.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But the strategists said Trump was one of the winners of the debate, even though he was far from the stage.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Trump won because he\u2019s still the front-runner. He didn\u2019t lose any votes tonight,&#8221; Carney emphasized.<\/p>\n<p>And Kochel added, &#8220;I think Trump benefited from not being on the stage. He was probably better off not being there. Trump\u2019s probably feeling pretty good about it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The showdown in Milwaukee was the first of monthly debates organized by the Republican National Committee.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The next debate \u2014 a FOX Business-hosted showdown \u2014 will be held Sept. 27 at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/biggest-winners-losers-aggressive-messy-first-republican-debate-gop-strategists\">Source &#8211; https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/biggest-winners-losers-aggressive-messy-first-republican-debate-gop-strategists <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From first-time candidate Vivek Ramaswamy grabbing the most attention to a usually mild-mannered former Vice President Mike Pence repeatedly on the attack, the first Republican [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"initial","rop_publish_now_accounts":{"twitter_2902945987_2902945987":""},"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","footnotes":""},"categories":[16563],"tags":[],"stock_ticker":[],"class_list":["post-77257","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-market-news","entry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Biggest winners and losers of &#039;aggressive,&#039; 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