{"id":50402,"date":"2022-12-17T07:30:41","date_gmt":"2022-12-17T12:30:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cablemanpro.com\/wallstreetpr\/idaho-murders-former-medical-examiner-disputes-coroners-toxicology-claims-50402"},"modified":"2022-12-17T07:30:41","modified_gmt":"2022-12-17T12:30:41","slug":"idaho-murders-former-medical-examiner-disputes-coroners-toxicology-claims","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cablemanpro.com\/wallstreetpr\/idaho-murders-former-medical-examiner-disputes-coroners-toxicology-claims-50402","title":{"rendered":"Idaho murders: Former medical examiner disputes coroner&#8217;s toxicology claims"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>A renowned forensic pathologist and former medical examiner told Fox News Digital the toxicology reports for four slain <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/us\/us-regions\/west\/idaho\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">University of Idaho<\/a> students could hold potential clues to the unsolved case.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;From the toxicology, you could learn a great deal about where the decedents were during the hours before their death, what, if any, drugs they were taking, their state of mind,&#8221; Dr. Michael Baden said. &#8220;Did they take drugs that could have caused them to sleep and not wake during the encounter?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Baden&#8217;s comments came in response to Latah County Coroner Cathy Mabbutt&#8217;s statements in an exclusive interview last week with Fox News Digital dismissing the tests, which had not come back from the lab yet, as irrelevant to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/us\/crime\/homicide\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">college killings<\/a>.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The Moscow Police Department declined to comment Friday on whether toxicology reports are still pending.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/university-idaho-murders-timeline-what-know-slaughter-four-students\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><u>UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO STUDENTS KILLED: A TIMELINE OF EVENTS<\/u><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>More than a month has passed since Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Ethan Chapin and Xana Kernodle were stabbed to death in their rental home near campus Nov. 13 between 3 a.m. and 4 a.m.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mabbutt said the students were ambushed in their sleep with a large knife.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/idaho-murders-father-slain-victim-says-big-open-wounds-calls-police-cowards\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><u>IDAHO MURDERS: FATHER OF SLAIN VICTIM SAYS SHE HAD \u2018BIG OPEN WOUNDS,\u2019 CALLS POLICE \u2018COWARDS\u2019<\/u><\/strong><\/a>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Moscow Police, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/tech\/topics\/fbi\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">working with the FBI<\/a> and the Idaho State Police, have yet to name a suspect or recover the fixed-blade knife they believe was used in the shocking slayings.<\/p>\n<p>Baden pointed out that Mabbutt, whose handling of the case has <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/idaho-murder-victims-family-lawyer-meet-police-strained-relationship\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">come under fire,<\/a> is a coroner and not a medical doctor. Mabbutt, an attorney with her own law office in town, used to work as a nurse and was elected coroner in 2006.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/idaho-murders-coroner-weighs-toxicology-reports-describes-role-case\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><u>IDAHO MURDERS: CORONER WEIGHS IN ON TOXICOLOGY REPORTS, DESCRIBES HER ROLE IN CASE<\/u><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Her main role is to determine the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/idaho-student-killings-coroner-autopsy-findings\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">cause and manner of death<\/a> based on autopsy reports issued by a pathologist with the Spokane Medical Examiner&#8217;s Office.<\/p>\n<p>Baden said the toxicology probably won&#8217;t have any bearing on the cause or manner of death \u2014 homicide by stabbing \u2014 but could offer other insights.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;These days there are literally <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/us\/crime\/drugs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">hundreds of drugs<\/a> looked for in toxicology that are new and different because of all the fentanyl and methamphetamine-like drugs coming from different sources,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Certain drugs are used in Washington versus Idaho, and this could offer clues about where they were or who they were with before they died.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Urine, blood and stomach contents are often tested as part of a toxicology report, Baden added. &#8220;Maybe one of the victims had their food spiked,&#8221; he said. &#8220;This would be a significant piece of evidence.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Baden described the system of using coroners in parts of the U.S. as an archaic relic from British colonial rule.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/idaho-murders-white-car-spotted-footage-obtained-police-one-day-killings\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><u>IDAHO MURDERS: WHITE CAR SPOTTED IN FOOTAGE OBTAINED BY POLICE ONE DAY AFTER KILLINGS<\/u><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Retired Los Angeles Police Det. Mark Fuhrman agreed with Mabbutt&#8217;s conclusion.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They were attacked with a knife, and they basically bled to death. Toxicology wouldn&#8217;t affect that no matter what they ingested,&#8221; Fuhrman said. &#8220;I&#8217;d put my money on there being alcohol in all four victims&#8217; systems. \u2026 What conclusions can you draw from that?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Fuhrman criticized Mabbutt for sharing details of the autopsy with the victims&#8217; families.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;She should stop talking,&#8221; Fuhrman added. &#8220;She has never done an autopsy. She doesn&#8217;t understand the value of the autopsy information to police. She should not have talked to anybody about the injuries of any of the victims.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Kaylee Goncalves&#8217; father, Steve Goncalves, told Fox News Digital he was upset Mabbutt shared grisly details of Kaylee&#8217;s injuries with his underage daughter.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Mabbutt also shared details of the other victims\u2019 injuries with him, which he felt was inappropriate. Mabbutt declined to comment.<\/p>\n<p>Police are\u00a0asking the public to call in tips at <u>208-883-7180,<\/u> email <u>tipline@ci.moscow.id.us<\/u> or submit digital media <a href=\"https:\/\/tips.fbi.gov\/digitalmedia\/a7a83fc9a9c5fdc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\"><u>here<\/u><\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/idaho-murders-former-medical-examiner-disputes-coroners-toxicology-claims\">Source &#8211; https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/us\/idaho-murders-former-medical-examiner-disputes-coroners-toxicology-claims <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A renowned forensic pathologist and former medical examiner told Fox News Digital the toxicology reports for four slain University of Idaho students could hold potential [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"initial","rop_publish_now_accounts":{"twitter_2902945987_2902945987":""},"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","footnotes":""},"categories":[16563],"tags":[],"stock_ticker":[],"class_list":["post-50402","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-market-news","entry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.9 - 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