{"id":49531,"date":"2022-12-08T14:47:20","date_gmt":"2022-12-08T19:47:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cablemanpro.com\/wallstreetpr\/it-will-take-some-complex-math-for-mccarthy-to-actually-be-elected-speaker-of-the-house-49531"},"modified":"2022-12-08T14:47:20","modified_gmt":"2022-12-08T19:47:20","slug":"it-will-take-some-complex-math-for-mccarthy-to-actually-be-elected-speaker-of-the-house","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cablemanpro.com\/wallstreetpr\/it-will-take-some-complex-math-for-mccarthy-to-actually-be-elected-speaker-of-the-house-49531","title":{"rendered":"It will take some complex math for McCarthy to actually be elected speaker of the House"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>You may never have heard of Cheryl Johnson.<\/p>\n<p>But you are certain to hear <i>a lot<\/i> about Johnson on January 3.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s possible House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., may never clasp the gavel and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/mccarthy-wins-gop-nomination-for-house-speaker\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">become Speaker of the House<\/a> on January 3.<\/p>\n<p>By the same token, Cheryl Johnson may never be House Speaker. But she will certainly be the most powerful figure in the House of Representatives at least for a while on January 3 \u2014 and perhaps a little longer \u2014 if McCarthy struggles to sew up the votes.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/paul-pelosi-emerges-public-first-time-since-california-attack\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">House Speaker Nancy Pelosi<\/a>, D-Calif., tapped Johnson to become clerk of the House in late 2018. Johnson formally assumed the role in early 2019. But Republicans won control of the House last month. They\u2019ll be in charge in January. That means Johnson \u2014 a Democratic appointee \u2014 will be out of a job soon. Republicans will select their own Clerk of the House.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/mccarthy-plays-hardball-gop-rebels-committee-assignments\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>MCCARTHY PLAYS HARDBALL WITH GOP REBELS OVER COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But Johnson will at least serve as House Clerk \u2014 and the officer who is in charge of the House of Representatives \u2014 until it selects a speaker.<\/p>\n<p>The law requires Johnson to preside over the House at noon ET on Jan. 3, the constitutionally-mandated beginning of the new Congress. She\u2019ll oversee the &#8220;call of the House.&#8221; That\u2019s where all of the new, but-not-yet-sworn-in-members of the 118th Congress will come to the House floor to record their attendance. That\u2019s followed by nominations from both parties for their speaker candidates. Then, since the House still hasn\u2019t picked a speaker, Johnson will preside from the dais over actual vote for Speaker.<\/p>\n<p>House &#8220;reading clerks&#8221; alphabetically announce the names of each House member elected to the 118th Congress. Each member will rise from their seat \u2014 or perhaps holler from the back rail of the chamber \u2014 the name of their preferred speaker candidate.<\/p>\n<p>Most Republicans will announce their support for McCarthy, although there could be names of other House members or even non-members. Most if not all Democrats will declare their support for incoming House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, D-N.Y.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>And if there is no clear winner after one round, the House is supposed to keep voting \u2014 ad infinitum \u2014 until it elects the House speaker. In fact, the House can\u2019t do <i>anything<\/i> else \u2014 pass bills, fund the government raise the debt ceiling, investigate Hunter Biden <i>or even swear-in the new members \u2014<\/i> until it elects a speaker.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/mccarthy-warns-key-gop-agenda-stalled-leadership-vote-doesnt-move-forward\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>MCCARTHY WARNS KEY GOP AGENDA COULD BE STALLED IF LEADERSHIP VOTE DOESN&#8217;T MOVE FORWARD<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;Dean of the House&#8221; \u2014 the most senior lawmaker then swears-in the speaker. In turn, the new speaker swears-in the rest of the House, en masse.<\/p>\n<p>McCarthy appears to lack the votes to become speaker right now. That circumstance could either improve or get worse for McCarthy between now and January 3. And if neither McCarthy nor anyone else secures the votes, the House will move to a second ballot for the first time since 1923.<\/p>\n<p>It took nine ballots for the House to tap Speaker Frederick Gillett, R-Mass., for the job 100 years ago.<\/p>\n<p>That means Johnson is the de facto person in charge of the House until lawmakers settle on a speaker.<\/p>\n<p>Johnson could be on the job for a while. The House voted more than 60 times before selecting a speaker in 1849. The House simmered for two months before finally electing a speaker in 1856.<\/p>\n<p>Johnson may not run the House for two months. But she may get an extension in her role as clerk of the House.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s consider what it actually takes for the House to elect a speaker.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/kevin-mccarthy-gop-detractors-received-financial-help-opposing-speaker-bid\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>KEVIN MCCARTHY&#8217;S GOP DETRACTORS RECEIVED FINANCIAL HELP FROM HIM BEFORE OPPOSING SPEAKER BID<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It is frequently written that the successful speaker candidate needs &#8220;218&#8221; votes. That\u2019s technically right. The House is comprised of 435 members and it\u2019s often said that the speaker needs &#8220;an outright majority&#8221; of the House to win. The candidate with the &#8220;most votes&#8221; doesn\u2019t prevail.<\/p>\n<p>But that doesn\u2019t tell the whole story. And this is where it gets complicated.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how the House <i>really<\/i> elects its speaker:<\/p>\n<p>The winning candidate is the person who secures an outright majority of members casting ballots for someone <i>by name<\/i>.<\/p>\n<p>Pelosi, former Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio and former Speaker Newt Gingrich, R-Ga., all won at least one speaker\u2019s election with fewer than 218 votes. Six speakers have won with fewer than 218 votes since the House grew to its current size of 435 members in 1913.<\/p>\n<p>At the beginning of this Congress, Pelosi prevailed 216-209. She only needed 214 votes, and three members didn\u2019t vote. One vote went for Sen. Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill. Another ballot went to Jeffries. Reps. Elissa Slotkin, D-Mich., Mikie Sherrill, D-N.J, and Abigail Spanberger, D-Va., voted &#8220;present.&#8221; Those three &#8220;present&#8221; votes are key. That trio of members didn\u2019t cast ballots for anyone by name, reducing the actual number of votes Pelosi needed to win.<\/p>\n<p>Again, the rule is the winning candidate must capture an outright majority of those members casting ballots <i>by name.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/republicans-publicly-oppose-mccarthys-speakership-bid-putting-ascension-leadership-role-jeopardy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>5 REPUBLICAN PUBLICLY OPPOSE MCCARTHY&#8217;S SPEAKERSHIP BID, PUTTING ASCENSION TO LEADERSHIP ROLE IN JEOPARDY<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>We often say these situations are &#8220;about the math.&#8221; But in the vote for speaker, it\u2019s about some <i>very complex math<\/i>. In fact, it\u2019s real-time, parliamentary algebra.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In other words, you don\u2019t really know what the magic number is for McCarthy or anyone else to become speaker until the roll call concludes and the House tally clerks determine how many members cast ballots for someone by name, sorting out the &#8220;present&#8221; votes and those lawmakers who were absent.<\/p>\n<p>This is complex stuff.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s a hypothetical scenario which attests to just how dicey this could get.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>The 118th Congress begins with 434 members. There is a vacancy due to the late Rep. Donald McEachin, D-Va., who won re-election last month before his unexpected death. The breakdown next year is expected to be thus: 222 Republicans, 212 Democrats with one vacancy. So if all 434 members of the House vote, McCarthy still needs 218 votes to win.<\/p>\n<p>Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz., says there are 20 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/republicans-opposing-mccarthy-take-miracle-earn-vote-speaker\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Republicans who won\u2019t vote for McCarthy<\/a>. Let\u2019s presume that Biggs is correct. On the first day of the new Congress, those 20 GOPers don\u2019t vote for another candidate by name \u2014 but vote &#8220;present.&#8221; This reduces the total number of members voting for a candidate by name to 414.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, the magic number to become speaker \u2014 <i>only determined at the end of the roll call<\/i> \u2014 is 208.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>With 20 GOPers voting present in our war-game scenario, McCarthy only secures 202 votes by name. Meantime, Jeffries could score all 212 Democrats. If it takes 208 to win, then Jeffries would become speaker in that scenario because he received an outright majority of all voting for someone by name.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/mccarthy-creates-new-house-china-select-committee-taps-gallagher-as-chairman-to-confront-ccp-threats\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>MCCARTHY CREATES HOUSE CHINA SELECT COMMITTEE TO CONFRONT CCP THREATS<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Such an outlandish scenario with Jeffries winning the gavel is unlikely to happen. But there are a few other weird permutations which could unfold.<\/p>\n<p>At the end of the first vote for speaker, the tally clerks add up the numbers and announce the totals to the House. They\u2019ll announce a winner if someone passes the proper threshold. If not, the order of the House is to start voting again.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Fox is told its unclear if the House could declare a recess immediately after a failed first vote for speaker. It\u2019s also up in the air if there might be speeches on the floor or nominations of other candidates. After all, the House has not been in this position in a century. But the House must keep voting until it selects a speaker. It can\u2019t pass bills, it can\u2019t launch an investigation into Hunter Biden. Nothing.<\/p>\n<p>McCarthy loyalists are willing to force the House to vote again and again until the California Republican claims the gavel. Lobbyists downtown and fellow Republicans will begin to apply pressure on fellow members to vote for McCarthy.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Even if you don&#8217;t believe in Santa Claus, there\u2019s a naughty and nice list,&#8221; said former Rep. Lynn Westmoreland, R-Ga. &#8220;\u2019Was he a team player? Was she a team player? How did they do? They embarrassed us.\u2019 And so those are the things that will put you on one of the lists.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s where fellow Republicans will have nothing but contempt for those who blocked McCarthy.<\/p>\n<p>But the problem for McCarthy \u2014 as well as <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/paul-ryan-says-mccarthy-will-clinch-speakership-anyone-not-named-trump-can-beat-biden\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">former House Speakers Paul Ryan<\/a>, R-Wisc., and Boehner \u2014 is that some conservative Republicans aren\u2019t interested in governing.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;They just want to blow things up,&#8221; said one senior House GOPer who asked not to be identified.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/california-democrat-says-vote-unity-gop-speaker-mccarthy-allies-warn-concessions\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>CALIFORNIA DEMOCRAT SAYS HE&#8217;D VOTE FOR A \u2018UNITY\u2019 GOP SPEAKER, BUT MCCARTHY ALLIES WARN OF CONCESSIONS<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Some wonder if the GOP can afford to have a naughty and nice list when their party will hold such a narrow majority. Republicans need every member they can get.<\/p>\n<p>This is also why there\u2019s chatter about trying to get a moderate Republican to run if McCarthy gets crossways in the speaker vote. Lawmakers have floated three names to Fox: moderate Reps. John Katko, R-N.Y., Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., and Fred Upton, R-Mich.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/andy-biggs-to-challenge-kevin-mccarthy-for-house-speaker-on-house-floor\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Biggs says he will remain<\/a> in the race for speaker through Jan. 3. Biggs also said he wouldn\u2019t permit the House to elect what he termed a &#8220;RINO&#8221; as Speaker.<\/p>\n<p>But Katko, Zeldin and Upton all share something in common. At 12:00:01 p.m. ET on Jan. 3, they become <i>former<\/i> members. The trio is retiring. But nowhere is it written that the speaker of the House be a member of the body \u2014 though so far, the House has never tapped a non-member to serve as Speaker.<\/p>\n<p>Zeldin brushed off questions about Republicans trying to draft him.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m certainly not going to meddle with that process at all,&#8221; said Zeldin on Fox.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s also important to note that sometimes lawmakers make a lot of noise about voting against their party\u2019s preferred candidate for speaker and then back out. This is why the alphabetical roll call is crucial.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If your last name begins in a \u2018W\u2019, that&#8217;s different than your last name begins with an \u2018A\u2019,&#8221; said Westmoreland. &#8220;Those guys that are in the front of the alphabet, they&#8217;re walking the plank and they don&#8217;t know if \u2018W\u2019 is going to stick with them or not.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So, if Republicans reach an impasse \u2014 and if it goes on for a few days \u2014 you might not have a Speaker McCarthy or any other speaker for a while.<\/p>\n<p>And if Republicans are in disarray, the person temporarily in charge of the new, GOP majority is the Democratic clerk of the House, Cheryl Johnson.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/complex-math-mccarthy-actually-elected-speaker-house\">Source &#8211; https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/politics\/complex-math-mccarthy-actually-elected-speaker-house <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You may never have heard of Cheryl Johnson. 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