{"id":141868,"date":"2026-08-06T06:45:51","date_gmt":"2026-08-06T10:45:51","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cablemanpro.com\/wallstreetpr\/new-york-times-owned-athletic-podcast-trashes-female-athletes-who-defend-womens-sports-141868"},"modified":"2026-08-06T06:45:51","modified_gmt":"2026-08-06T10:45:51","slug":"new-york-times-owned-athletic-podcast-trashes-female-athletes-who-defend-womens-sports","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cablemanpro.com\/wallstreetpr\/new-york-times-owned-athletic-podcast-trashes-female-athletes-who-defend-womens-sports-141868","title":{"rendered":"New York Times-owned Athletic podcast trashes female athletes who defend women\u2019s sports"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>The New York Times-owned Athletic distributed a podcast this week in which one host dismissed a 12-time All-American swimmer as &#8220;not even a very good one,&#8221; while another smirked and laughed at an eight-year <a href=\"https:\/\/foxnews.com\/category\/sports\/wnba\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">WNBA<\/a> veteran because she isn\u2019t the best player in the league.<\/p>\n<p>Quite the celebration of female athletes.<\/p>\n<p>Charlotte Wilder and Madeline Hill made those comments on the latest episode of &#8220;The Sports Gossip Show,&#8221; which is distributed through The Athletic Podcast Network.<\/p>\n<p>Wilder went after <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/person\/g\/riley-gaines\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Riley Gaines<\/a> and Hill said Sophie Cunningham\u2019s basketball career would only last so long because &#8220;she\u2019s not the best player.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/outkick-sports\/left-wing-sports-host-sarah-spain-launches-disgusting-personal-smear-sophie-cunningham\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>LEFT-WING SPORTS HOST SARAH SPAIN LAUNCHES DISGUSTING PERSONAL SMEAR OF SOPHIE CUNNINGHAM<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Then Hill smirked, gave a condescending laugh and repeated herself.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;She\u2019s not.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Well, no. Cunningham isn\u2019t the best player in the WNBA. Nobody said she was. She has merely spent eight seasons playing in the best women\u2019s basketball league in the world, which apparently isn\u2019t enough to earn respect from two people hosting a &#8220;sports&#8221; podcast.<\/p>\n<p>Then the hosts accused Cunningham of launching a &#8220;right-wing grift,&#8221; plotting a post-basketball conservative career and becoming a Republican &#8220;mouthpiece.&#8221; They also described signs and shirts supporting women&#8217;s sports as &#8220;anti-trans&#8221; and suggested that some young girls involved in the movement might lack &#8220;critical thinking skills.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Did we mention these two women, particularly Wilder, fancy themselves as champions of other women?<\/p>\n<p>In 2019, Wilder <a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/sports\/at-deadspin-can-the-cool-kids-of-the-sports-internet-become-its-moral-authority\/2019\/02\/25\/c6045556-1368-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">told the Washington Post<\/a>, &#8220;For my whole career I\u2019ve tried [to] be helpful and supportive of other women in the industry.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>She sure has a funny way of showing it, huh?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/link.podtrac.com\/dmwdd_article\"><strong><u>ZERO BS. JUST DAKICH. TAKE THE DON&#8217;T @ ME PODCAST ON THE ROAD. DOWNLOAD NOW!<\/u><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The Athletic, owned by The New York Times Company, distributes &#8220;The Sports Gossip Show&#8221; through its podcast network. The show joined the network under a licensing agreement in 2025.<\/p>\n<p>This particular episode even labeled the <a href=\"https:\/\/foxnews.com\/outkick-sports\/jemele-hill-takes-aim-sophie-cunningham-storm-controversy-grows-girls-supporting-womens-sports\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">segment attacking Cunningham<\/a>, &#8220;Sophie Cunningham\u2019s right-wing grift.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Subtle, right?<\/p>\n<p>The problem is that the facts don\u2019t cooperate with it.<\/p>\n<p>Female excellence only counts when the politics align<\/p>\n<p>Wilder\u2019s swipe at Gaines is the easiest place to begin because whether Gaines was a good swimmer isn\u2019t a matter of political opinion.<\/p>\n<p>She earned 12 All-America honors at Kentucky, won three individual conference championships, set two SEC records and qualified for the 2021 U.S. Olympic Trials. Gaines tied for fifth in the 200-yard freestyle at the 2022 <a href=\"https:\/\/foxnews.com\/category\/sports\/ncaa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">NCAA<\/a> Championships, and one of her conference-title swims was, at the time, the 16th-fastest in American history. Kentucky called her one of the most decorated swimmers in program history.<\/p>\n<p>Not very good, huh?<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps Wilder only considers Olympic gold medalists to be good swimmers. That would be a strange standard for someone whose own website describes her as &#8220;the sports expert,&#8221; but at least it would be a standard.<\/p>\n<p>More likely, the line served a simpler purpose. Diminish Gaines\u2019 athletic accomplishments, and listeners don\u2019t have to wrestle seriously with what happened to her or why she speaks about women\u2019s sports.<\/p>\n<p>Hill used a similar move against Cunningham with her condescending characterization of Cunningham as &#8220;not the best player.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Cunningham was drafted in 2019 and has remained in the world\u2019s top women\u2019s basketball league since. She appeared in the 2021 WNBA Finals and ranks among the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.basketball-reference.com\/wnba\/leaders\/ts_pct_career.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer nofollow\">top 10 in league history<\/a> in true shooting percentage, making her one of the most efficient shooters the WNBA has ever seen. Plus, Cunningham is in her eighth WNBA season, roughly twice the length of the average player\u2019s career, and Hill still found her accomplishments worthy of derision.<\/p>\n<p>Almost every girl who has ever picked up a basketball would consider reaching the WNBA an extraordinary achievement.<\/p>\n<p>Hill treated it as a joke because Cunningham thinks women&#8217;s sports should be for women only.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s quite a message from two women being paid to discuss women\u2019s sports: female athletic accomplishments count right up until the athlete disagrees with them.<\/p>\n<p>The left&#8217;s new favorite insult: &#8220;grifter&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Calling Cunningham a &#8220;grifter&#8221; is different from saying she\u2019s wrong, opportunistic or enjoying the attention.<\/p>\n<p>A grift involves deception. The accusation only makes sense if Cunningham is pretending to hold a belief she doesn\u2019t actually hold because she thinks the act will make her money or extend her celebrity.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s what Wilder and Hill were alleging, whether they wanted to say it that plainly or not.<\/p>\n<p>Hill said Cunningham &#8220;knows what she\u2019s doing.&#8221; The hosts speculated that defending female sports was her post-retirement strategy, suggested Republicans were using her to deliver talking points and predicted she would speak at the next Republican National Convention.<\/p>\n<p>Their evidence?<\/p>\n<p>Cunningham spoke publicly, posed with Gaines and former Levi\u2019s executive Jennifer Sey and her <a href=\"https:\/\/foxnews.com\/outkick-sports\/wnba-star-sophie-cunningham-player-exclusive-adidas-shoe-sells-less-hour-online\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">player-exclusive Adidas shoe<\/a> sold out in hours after doubling down on her position.<\/p>\n<p>Those facts show that Cunningham\u2019s stance <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/outkick-sports\/sophie-cunningham-doubles-down-ahead-sun-game-after-espn-profile-stirs-controversy-i-said-what-i-said\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">has increased her popularity<\/a> with a segment of the public. They might even show that she recognizes the commercial benefit.<\/p>\n<p>They don\u2019t establish that she\u2019s lying.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/foxnews.com\/media\/sophie-cunningham-sees-support-surge-star-puts-career-line-girls-sports\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>SOPHIE CUNNINGHAM SEES SUPPORT SURGE AFTER STAR PUTS CAREER ON LINE FOR GIRLS SPORTS<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Cunningham <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/outkick-sports\/sophie-cunningham-calls-out-wnba-media-non-basketball-focus-viral-cheryl-reeve-conversation\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">said Wednesday<\/a> that the ESPN interview took place in February and that the writer directly asked her about transgender athletes in women\u2019s sports. She answered the question, then spent the next several months saying virtually nothing about it until ESPN published the story.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s an odd way to launch a carefully planned grift. Answer one question, keep quiet and wait for someone else to make it public?<\/p>\n<p>A person can sincerely believe something and make money from saying it. Wilder and Hill should understand that better than most. They are, after all, paid to deliver progressive political opinions into microphones. Presumably, they don\u2019t view their own salaries as proof they\u2019re lying.<\/p>\n<p>Plus, Cunningham\u2019s position didn\u2019t suddenly appear when Adidas released a shoe.<\/p>\n<p>In 2022, Cunningham shared a message criticizing the participation of Lia Thomas in women\u2019s college swimming and said athletes should have the opportunity to compete fairly. That was four years before this supposed &#8220;hard pivot right.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That doesn\u2019t prove Cunningham has never considered the career benefits of speaking out. It does create a rather significant problem for the claim that she invented this belief as a convenient retirement plan.<\/p>\n<p>The hosts provided no evidence of political coordination, compensation from conservative groups or private statements contradicting Cunningham\u2019s public position.<\/p>\n<p>OutKick\/Fox News Digital reached out to Wilder and Hill and asked if they could provide that evidence and explain whether calling Cunningham a grifter meant they believed she was lying. Neither responded by the publication deadline.<\/p>\n<p>They just announced that her sincerity was fake, kept talking and didn&#8217;t respond to a request to provide proof.<\/p>\n<p>Then they turned their contempt toward teenage girls.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s one thing to take cheap shots at Gaines and Cunningham, two highly successful adult women who can answer for themselves.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s quite another to aim that same condescension at teenage girls, particularly girls who have already lost to biological males in girls\u2019 sports.<\/p>\n<p>But that\u2019s where Wilder and Hill went next.<\/p>\n<p>Wilder praised Minnesota Lynx coach Cheryl Reeve for questioning whether young girls holding <a href=\"https:\/\/foxnews.com\/outkick-sports\/sophie-cunningham-rally-rocks-wnba-game-save-womens-sports-activists-face-counterprotest\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">signs at WNBA games<\/a> understood the &#8220;real&#8221; threats facing women\u2019s sports. She also described the XX-XY Athletics shirts worn by the girls as &#8220;anti-trans,&#8221; though she never explained what language or imagery on the shirts attacked transgender people.<\/p>\n<p>She then suggested that some people involved might lack &#8220;critical thinking skills&#8221; or hadn\u2019t been &#8220;taught how to think about these things.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>One of the girls they were discussing was Ahnaleigh Wilson.<\/p>\n<p>Wilson didn\u2019t arrive at her position because Republicans tricked her into it. She became involved after losing a girls\u2019 1,600-meter race to a biological male athlete when she was 14-years-old.<\/p>\n<p>I <a href=\"https:\/\/www.outkick.com\/sports\/teenage-girl-trans-runner-speaks-out-ahnaleigh-wilson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">interviewed Wilson in 2024<\/a>. Her position wasn\u2019t hateful, and it certainly wasn\u2019t thoughtless.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It isn\u2019t fair, and it isn\u2019t working for biological girls,&#8221; Wilson said. &#8220;And it isn\u2019t fair, and it isn\u2019t working for transgender athletes.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Wilson had considered how the policy affected everyone involved. She simply didn\u2019t reach the conclusion Wilder and Hill demanded.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/outkick-sports\/wnba-silent-whether-french-transgender-star-dominating-womens-league-eligible-play\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>WNBA SILENT ON WHETHER FRENCH TRANSGENDER STAR DOMINATING WOMEN&#8217;S LEAGUE WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO PLAY<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>That makes the lecture about &#8220;critical thinking skills&#8221; particularly rich. A basic search would have revealed that one of the girls they were dismissing had personally experienced the exact competitive problem they claimed wasn\u2019t a threat to women\u2019s sports.<\/p>\n<p>And Wilson wasn\u2019t alone.<\/p>\n<p>NCAA softball player Kendall Kotzmacher attended a rally supporting Cunningham in Minnesota after her final high-school game ended in a state-championship tournament loss to a team featuring a biological male pitcher. The pitcher held Kotzmacher\u2019s team to two runs and hit a double that helped set up the winning run.<\/p>\n<p>Kotzmacher said a counterprotester at the rally told her she &#8220;should\u2019ve been aborted.&#8221; She also said she had received death threats and hateful messages after speaking publicly about her experience.<\/p>\n<p>These weren\u2019t teenage girls parroting political talking points they didn\u2019t understand. They were female athletes who had competed against biological males, lost races and potential championships, and then faced abuse for talking about it.<\/p>\n<p>None of that made it into the discussion before Wilder lectured the girls about how to think.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s quite a display of intellectual curiosity from someone hosting a podcast for a New York Times-owned outlet.<\/p>\n<p>The Athletic is distributing more than sports gossip.<\/p>\n<p>By the end of the segment, the conversation had drifted well beyond Cunningham.<\/p>\n<p>Hill accused Republicans of distracting from &#8220;snatching people off the street and murdering people on the street.&#8221; Wilder claimed there is more money in conservative commentary because rich people support Republicans who &#8220;don\u2019t tax billionaires.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Neither provided specific evidence for those claims during the episode.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s their right. Podcasts contain opinions, jokes and exaggerations. &#8220;The Sports Gossip Show&#8221; doesn&#8217;t pretend to be a nightly newscast and no one would mistake these two for serious or seasoned political journalists.<\/p>\n<p>But &#8220;gossip&#8221; isn\u2019t a magic word that makes factual claims immune from scrutiny.<\/p>\n<p>Wilder said Gaines wasn\u2019t a good swimmer. Her record says otherwise.<\/p>\n<p>The hosts said Cunningham\u2019s position was a grift. They didn\u2019t show that she was being dishonest.<\/p>\n<p>They treated supportive signs as anti-trans without identifying any anti-trans language.<\/p>\n<p>And they questioned whether young girls knew how to think about the issue while leaving out that at least one of those girls had experienced it firsthand.<\/p>\n<p>OutKick\/Fox News Digital sent detailed questions to Wilder and Hill asking them to explain those claims. OutKick\/Fox News Digital also contacted The Athletic and The New York Times Company to ask what standards apply to content distributed through The Athletic Podcast Network and whether either company stood by the episode.<\/p>\n<p>None responded by the publication deadline.<\/p>\n<p>The issue is not that Wilder and Hill hold strong opinions. It&#8217;s that they made factual and motive-based claims about athletes without showing the evidence needed to support them. They also launched multiple personal attacks.<\/p>\n<p>Riley Gaines held the wrong political opinion, so her 12 All-America honors no longer made her a good swimmer. Sophie Cunningham held the wrong political opinion, so Hill smirked at an eight-year WNBA career and dismissed her as &#8220;not the best player.&#8221; Teenage girls held the wrong political opinion, so their firsthand experiences became evidence that they hadn\u2019t learned how to think.<\/p>\n<p>The hosts didn\u2019t rebut these women and girls. They diminished their accomplishments, questioned their sincerity and treated their experiences as irrelevant.<\/p>\n<p>Apparently, female athletes deserve support only until they defend female sports.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/outkick-sports\/new-york-times-owned-athletic-podcast-trashes-female-athletes-defend-womens-sports\">Source &#8211; https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/outkick-sports\/new-york-times-owned-athletic-podcast-trashes-female-athletes-defend-womens-sports <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The New York Times-owned Athletic distributed a podcast this week in which one host dismissed a 12-time All-American swimmer as &#8220;not even a very good [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rop_custom_images_group":[],"rop_custom_messages_group":[],"rop_publish_now":"initial","rop_publish_now_accounts":{"twitter_2902945987_2902945987":""},"rop_publish_now_history":[],"rop_publish_now_status":"pending","footnotes":""},"categories":[16563],"tags":[],"stock_ticker":[],"class_list":["post-141868","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-market-news","entry"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - 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