{"id":113349,"date":"2025-12-10T21:00:32","date_gmt":"2025-12-11T02:00:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cablemanpro.com\/wallstreetpr\/gavin-newsom-reflects-on-his-interview-with-charlie-kirk-the-sincerity-and-grace-of-slain-conservative-113349"},"modified":"2025-12-10T21:00:32","modified_gmt":"2025-12-11T02:00:32","slug":"gavin-newsom-reflects-on-his-interview-with-charlie-kirk-the-sincerity-and-grace-of-slain-conservative","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cablemanpro.com\/wallstreetpr\/gavin-newsom-reflects-on-his-interview-with-charlie-kirk-the-sincerity-and-grace-of-slain-conservative-113349","title":{"rendered":"Gavin Newsom reflects on his interview with Charlie Kirk, the \u2018sincerity\u2019 and \u2018grace\u2019 of slain conservative"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<p>California Gov. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/person\/gavin-newsom\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Gavin Newsom<\/a> reflected on his March interview with slain conservative activist <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/media\/charlie-kirk\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Charlie Kirk<\/a>, praising the Turning Point USA (TPUSA) co-founder for his willingness to debate those who disagreed with him in a &#8220;fair and balanced way,&#8221; as well as for his understanding of &#8220;the pain young men are facing and struggling with&#8221; \u2014 an area Newsom said Democrats could be addressing more effectively.<\/p>\n<p>In <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=PqBsRNUXWfs\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\">an interview<\/a> with The New York Times&#8217; Ezra Klein on Wednesday, Newsom lauded Kirk&#8217;s &#8220;sincerity&#8221; and &#8220;grace,&#8221; recalling him as someone who was &#8220;deeply focused on organizing in a deeper way than I fully understood.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I thought there was a deeper sincerity than I had anticipated, in terms of his point of view and his perspective. A willingness to engage with people he disagreed with, a willingness to debate \u2014 to the extent that he thought \u2014 in a fair and balanced way. I think there\u2019s grace in that,&#8221; he told Klein on &#8220;The Ezra Klein Show.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/media\/charlie-kirk-finished-final-book-one-month-before-shooting-widow-reveals-transformation-brought\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>CHARLIE KIRK FINISHED FINAL BOOK ONE MONTH BEFORE SHOOTING, WIDOW REVEALS TRANSFORMATION IT BROUGHT<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>The governor added that Kirk &#8220;understood more deeply the pain that young men are facing and struggling with,&#8221; and was able to &#8220;do something about it and give them hope and recognize that society is failing young men.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Speaking on the struggles currently facing young men, Newsom conceded that &#8220;if you\u2019re 30 years old, you\u2019re the first generation living that\u2019s not doing better than your parents,&#8221; noting that there is a growing sense of nihilism among that demographic.<\/p>\n<p>He said he felt that same nihilism while speaking to young men at a recent event, pointing out that Kirk had a strong understanding of this phenomenon.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I went down to TwitchCon and was there with a lot of gamers, really trying to get into the belly of the beast of understanding where young men are, and this pain and suffering, this isolation, that\u2019s turning increasingly to grievance \u2014 that they\u2019re never going to do better than their parents, they\u2019re never going to get out of that room with three roommates. They can\u2019t even afford rent because they can\u2019t afford the first two months\u2019 payment on the rent, let alone buy a home,&#8221; he recalled. &#8220;And this nihilism, Kirk understood. Certainly Trump understood it, as well. He took advantage of it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/media\/charlie-kirks-final-book-told-conservatives-stop-being-smug-lazy\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong>CHARLIE KIRK WARNED CONSERVATIVES AGAINST LAZINESS, SMUGNESS AND COWARDICE IN FINAL POLITICAL BOOK<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>While Newsom praised Kirk \u2014 and even President <a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/category\/person\/donald-trump\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Donald Trump<\/a> \u2014 for their understanding of the unique situation that young men are currently in, he argued that &#8220;they have no prescriptions to address it and deal with it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Of course, I only had an hour-and-a-half conversation with Charlie, but where it seems to me to have fallen short with Turning Point USA and the MAGA movement is they don\u2019t have a prescription to actually address the real and substantive issues \u2014 but they sure as hell identify the problem,&#8221; he asserted.<\/p>\n<p>Klein followed up by questioning whether Newsom had just laid out Kirk&#8217;s prescription for the problem: &#8220;Tariffs, a closed border and Christianity.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Newsom didn&#8217;t directly answer Klein&#8217;s question, but noted that &#8220;Christianity is a big part,&#8221; before recounting a story from one of his interactions with Kirk during their interview.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/media\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><strong><u>CLICK HERE FOR THE LATEST MEDIA AND CULTURE NEWS<\/u><\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I lazily said, &#8220;Jesus!&#8221; and he got offended. And then I said it again, and I realized: Boy, I really am offending him now. Forgive me,&#8221; he recalled. &#8220;I didn\u2019t understand how deeply held his faith was and how much of an organizing principle it was for him, as well.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Although the governor admitted that he&#8217;s more spiritual than religious, he acknowledged the value in Kirk building a movement that merged &#8220;creating community, a sense of belonging, meaning, identity.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Newsom added that while &#8220;there are a lot of grievances&#8221; he holds about some of Kirk&#8217;s views, &#8220;there are also a lot of grievances I have in this space: that my party has completely neglected this space, that we haven\u2019t been organizing the campuses.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We haven\u2019t been organizing young men. We haven\u2019t been addressing their societal screams, their concerns. Their suicide rate \u2014 four times that of women. Their dropout rates. Their depths of despair. We have men who are suffering, and it\u2019s hurting women. Any mother understands this,&#8221; he explained.<\/p>\n<p>Wrapping up his reflection on Kirk&#8217;s impact on young men, Newsom recalled how excited his son was when he found out that he was interviewing the TPUSA founder, telling his father, &#8220;you really need to get to know him, Dad.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I started to wake up to this reality that the Democratic Party needs to wake up to. And that\u2019s, again, the entry into why I did this podcast and had those folks on as first guests,&#8221; he shared.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/media\/gavin-newsom-reflects-his-interview-charlie-kirk-sincerity-grace-slain-conservative\">Source &#8211; https:\/\/www.foxnews.com\/media\/gavin-newsom-reflects-his-interview-charlie-kirk-sincerity-grace-slain-conservative <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>California Gov. 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